tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post1535405710780650562..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Verbal is binding. Or not.Rakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-33765326719607800302011-11-07T08:46:00.657-05:002011-11-07T08:46:00.657-05:00Coming to this late, but I think you could certain...Coming to this late, but I think you could certainly have asked for a ruling here without giving away information about the strength of your hand.<br /><br />Say you had 7-6 and had missed your draw and were deciding whether to try bluffing the river - you obviously need to know if the guy's committed to calling any bet or not (and his premature declaration of "I call" seems like an attempt at intimidation borne of weakness, potentially making a bluff even more tempting).<br /><br />There are obvious reasons why you would want to know if his statement is binding if you are either bluffing or holding the nuts (or close to it) - but I think there are excellent reasons for wishing this information regardless of your holding. I really don't think you give away any info at all by asking for a ruling here before declaring your action.modern synthesisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11118210027831230950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-72583476059529672972011-10-31T21:10:05.449-04:002011-10-31T21:10:05.449-04:00It's probably casino dependent. It might even ...It's probably casino dependent. It might even depend on who is the floor person on a particular night.<br /><br />I saw this in a ca$h game: A guy was thinking about how much to bet and the other guy said "If you bet, I'm going all in."<br /><br />The first guy bet and now the other guy tried to fold. The floor was called and they made him go all in.Memphis MOJOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653631347560307425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-37523636594285876662011-10-31T07:13:02.181-04:002011-10-31T07:13:02.181-04:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erNjXtuKawU
8mins ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erNjXtuKawU<br /><br />8mins 40 onwards but watch the whole hand imo, was the jamie gold high stakes poker hand<br /><br />i guess to prevent an angleshoot from villain (to get a free showdown by scaring you into not betting) the call should standAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-61908730744677749332011-10-31T05:07:08.386-04:002011-10-31T05:07:08.386-04:00I came across this once too. A guy said call while...I came across this once too. A guy said call while I was deciding on how much to bet, and I asked him how he could call when he didn't know how much I was betting. The dealer told me he would have to call whatever I bet, so I went all in and his call stood. It wasn't an over pot sized bet though. Not sure what would have happened if he complained though?arniejokinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13227900092409791124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-88298078459893987762011-10-31T02:05:49.491-04:002011-10-31T02:05:49.491-04:00I had nearly the identical situation come up at Fo...I had nearly the identical situation come up at Foxwoods a few years ago.<br /><br />I raised OOP with 88, c-bet the flop on an A-high board, and got called. Turn was a sweet 8, and my opponent called before I had cut chips. Hmmm....<br /><br />I asked the dealer if his out-of-turn call was binding. He assured me it was. We flipped our cards up, then my opponent called the floor. After a great deal of arguing, the floor insisted that his call was NOT binding. Cards face up now (wow, was I an idiot) I was given a chance to make a new turn bet. He folded, of course.<br /><br />I was very upset with the floor ruling. I was even more upset with the dealer, for presuming to know more than he did. And of course I was livid with myself for the costly mistakes I made on this hand. It was the one that took about six hours to set up. Live & learn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com