tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post2162726766684211728..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Matching or non-matching suits?Rakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-14298753121335514532012-04-03T01:42:08.520-04:002012-04-03T01:42:08.520-04:00Nope.Nope.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-36306454772998877632012-04-03T01:17:06.726-04:002012-04-03T01:17:06.726-04:00Any updates from Caro or theories as to why this m...Any updates from Caro or theories as to why this might be true?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-5732372674590044022012-03-26T10:50:44.156-04:002012-03-26T10:50:44.156-04:00Article is here:
http://www.pokerplayernewspaper....Article is here:<br /><br />http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/content/mike-caro-todays-word-predict-11990<br /><br />...looks like he was just wrong. Also a thread on 2+2:<br /><br />http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15/poker-theory/mike-caro-wrong-1184206/James Antillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03525392387567244342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-55612463748897343222012-03-24T16:52:01.041-04:002012-03-24T16:52:01.041-04:00Could he mean that he wants the aces tit a flush? ...Could he mean that he wants the aces tit a flush? Of so would that give you more chances or a full house to have a monstor hand beat a great hand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-18519972980001728732012-03-24T11:59:27.061-04:002012-03-24T11:59:27.061-04:00Not read the article, but what he says is true _if...Not read the article, but what he says is true _if_ you are already at the flop and have hit a six ... but I'd guess most people would assume that to be the case.<br /><br />And if you aren't getting all in pre. ... then having the same suits means that one of your flushes will hit less often, so you'll fold more post flop ... which is better for you (maybe this is what he meant).James Antillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03525392387567244342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-45648522720479285282012-03-23T15:51:09.647-04:002012-03-23T15:51:09.647-04:00I almost remember reading a couple years ago about...I almost remember reading a couple years ago about some flaw in the calculators, but it was so miniscule it almost didn't matter. I really can't elaborate at all on that, though, I don't remember what flaw the writer was referring to... To think about why same suits could do better than off-suits, maybe it would have something to do with the fact that with an off 6, you won't always win if your flush hits, only if your 6 plays. Some pots you'll split if your flush hits, but it's too high. Aces win all their flushes, so, by having the same suit as the Aces, you're taking 2 cards away from the deck that give the flush to them. While offsuit 6s win most flushes, they split some... Plus the Aces have all their flush outs available...maybe that's where he's coming from...the defense is better than the offense...?Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-47988085110377346412012-03-23T15:10:30.936-04:002012-03-23T15:10:30.936-04:00In case this wasn't clear, I wasn't trying...In case this wasn't clear, I wasn't trying to find errors or prove Caro wrong. Based on his history as having been one of the first to use computers to generate probability tables for poker and my longstanding respect for his writing, I just assumed he was right when I read the article. I was pleased to learn something new. I was surprised to discover that he was wrong, and it actually took me quite a while to gain sufficient confidence that I wasn't the one missing something.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-44166222242995407682012-03-23T12:53:58.927-04:002012-03-23T12:53:58.927-04:00Good catch grump! "defensive power" arg...Good catch grump! "defensive power" argument also makes no sense because you are already behind the pair of Aces. Interested to read what Caro's (if any) response is. Maybe a letter to the editor of Poker Player Newspaper (is there a link BTW?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-47137362808926080982012-03-23T12:08:20.521-04:002012-03-23T12:08:20.521-04:00Nothing gets by the eagle eye of the Grumpmeister....Nothing gets by the eagle eye of the Grumpmeister.Memphis MOJOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653631347560307425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-79450090958081665702012-03-23T10:18:16.792-04:002012-03-23T10:18:16.792-04:00Great post, Grump. I will be interested in hearing...Great post, Grump. I will be interested in hearing response if you ever hear back from him.lightning36https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641629003610446976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-48489130734492586162012-03-23T10:12:11.349-04:002012-03-23T10:12:11.349-04:00Odd Indeed.
Same suites, your flushes always lose...Odd Indeed.<br /><br />Same suites, your flushes always lose. One different suit, those flushes will win. Two different suites, more flushes will win.<br /><br />Those winning flushes will always be in greater number compared to you making trips/straights with same suits and AA hitting flush.Paboonoreply@blogger.com