tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post3265431491545118770..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Confederate monumentsRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-69460371779390906322017-10-10T22:49:44.291-04:002017-10-10T22:49:44.291-04:00Hey gun freak, surprised you have not weighed in o...Hey gun freak, surprised you have not weighed in on the Vegas tragedy, seeing as it involves two of your favorite things - guns and Las Vegas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-19567872896838904302017-08-19T18:13:41.171-04:002017-08-19T18:13:41.171-04:00The monument issue is only the beginning and matte...The monument issue is only the beginning and matters not to me. Where is it going to end does. It is frightening to those who understand our constitution and love it. It is encouraging to those who want to destroy it. Thus we have the communists and leftist politicians, along with their cohorts in the media piling on. Why all of a sudden is violence tolerated? Antifa thugs showing up looking like ninjas and not a peep or worry about it from the leftist media? A sitting congressman was shot just weeks ago. It is obvious what is going on here. Tinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04953821919868984039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-40204192854191504482017-08-18T16:46:02.554-04:002017-08-18T16:46:02.554-04:00I do want to challenge something TBC said here; th...I do want to challenge something TBC said here; this doesn't appear to be a monument protest infiltrated by white nationalists. This appears to be a white nationalist rally that MAY have been infiltrated by monument protesters.<br /><br />When the speaker's list includes Richard Spencer and David Duke...it's a white nationalist rally, Tony.<br /><br />s.i.seattleirishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11592850961602955834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-50079674147545167272017-08-16T14:17:16.441-04:002017-08-16T14:17:16.441-04:00I think it is fine to keep these monuments in a hi...I think it is fine to keep these monuments in a historical context, but as a single monument in a town square its not a historical context ... its a memorial. Move them into a history museum or a historical district and maybe they are appropriate.<br /><br />There are those who would not tolerate these statutes even in a museum and they are of course wrong. <br /><br />If southerners wish to commemorate the civil war with statutes ... perhaps a statute of Lee surrendering would be a reasonable compromise.<br /><br />(And I am one who believes the Confederacy was in the right in the War of Northern Aggression ..... not on the issue of slavery but on the issue of the inherent right of States to secede from the Union.)Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15453813685418342406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-72483262801837732652017-08-16T05:22:07.931-04:002017-08-16T05:22:07.931-04:00at first i supported a large gathering of right wi...at first i supported a large gathering of right wing conservatives out to voice their protests of these monuments being torn down. then i was disappointed to find out they were infiltrated by large numbers of nazi's, u see the message of unifying the right sounds good, but there were some bad people behind this. why do nazis have to come, which makes white southern conservatives look bad? nazis are no better than antifa, due to their hatred of Jews, God's chosen people. plus i hate any form of socialism, whether its swedish and British welfare, National socialism (nazism) or communismTony Bigcharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14505857211799064393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-71685199612114186512017-08-16T02:24:47.948-04:002017-08-16T02:24:47.948-04:00I think it is important to remember exactly WHEN t...I think it is important to remember exactly WHEN the vast majority of these 'monuments' were erected. <br /><br />It wasn't shortly after the Civil War. It was from 1890-1920 and 1950-1970. These were EXACTLY the periods when strife between southern whites were most eager to remind the African American population to remember their place (ie. the resurgence of the KKK / Jim Crow era at the turn of the century and the Civil Rights struggles).<br /><br />Here's an article on this : <br /><br />http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/08/the-real-story-of-all-those-confederate-statues/<br /><br />It seems fairly evident that the purpose of erecting such structure in such places as in front of Courthouses and legislatures served a pretty clear symbolic purpose, and it wasn't to remember war dead.Aussiesmurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11072680060029299422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-47502754106733805352017-08-15T22:48:02.141-04:002017-08-15T22:48:02.141-04:00I have to agree with Nina here. I think it's ...I have to agree with Nina here. I think it's important to admit the circumstances under which many of these "memorials" were erected. Many were erected many years after the civil war. They were cocky symbols and sick warnings of the continuing forced racial dominance of whites in the south. <br /><br />Put them in museums and battlefields. They have no place in our public squares.<br /><br />Scott<br />shiggins67@yahoo.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-1719178127162213122017-08-15T19:03:24.280-04:002017-08-15T19:03:24.280-04:00I don't think re-contextualization is either e...I don't think re-contextualization is either easy or terribly effective, in most cases. (Although it may be better than nothing.)<br /><br />These monuments are glorifications. There comes a time when we have to admit that they are glorifying an evil, and that there's no call for that any longer. Let them go to the Museum of Pernicious Causes.<br /><br />History is rewritten daily (and often egregiously badly in schoolbooks). THAT battle is critically important. <br /><br />These stone and steel trophies do not deserve the dignity of our public spaces.Nina Tnoreply@blogger.com