tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post4690506731158533578..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: G. Gordon Liddy sets an exampleRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-16653329409861746712012-02-12T19:03:09.440-05:002012-02-12T19:03:09.440-05:00Thanks for the link to that older post of yours, i...Thanks for the link to that older post of yours, it was a good read (and in fact, you had a good read on Mr. Dangerous).<br /><br />So I guess in the current story, the guy showing his hand was trying to make the same arrangement as you tacitly made in the older story, and you didn't comply (at least until you left the game). <br /><br />My lack of self-confidence is high enough so that I would never likely show a hand I was folding because I wouldn't want everyone to see what a fish I was if I indeeded should not have folded!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-86340018953367531822012-02-12T18:00:26.045-05:002012-02-12T18:00:26.045-05:00One thing I would take away, a good player knew wh...One thing I would take away, a good player knew where you were. Glad you told him, might get you additional respect down the line. I agree terrible play on his part, either shove or fold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-86537664439103527002012-02-12T01:54:12.543-05:002012-02-12T01:54:12.543-05:00You shoulda shown the AA right away man. Have a h...You shoulda shown the AA right away man. Have a heart. You have a cool girlfriend who loves you. You don't have to be heartless. A man you respected was getting insulted by some young internet formula-playing donk and you couldn't step in and stop the bs.<br />Think about it...<br /><br />Also, I think your playing style is textbook TAG and lacks art and reading ability. You could win more with your big hands but you prematurely e-bet-ulate and announce your hand strengths.<br />Just my opinion.<br />Love your blog though, man. You are a good writer and a smart guy. But you have played the same style since day one. It could evolve, I think.<br />Confidence...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-74859263907075389262012-02-11T17:48:54.355-05:002012-02-11T17:48:54.355-05:00Grange: I agree completely. His sharpest reasoning...Grange: I agree completely. His sharpest reasoning would have been this: "This guy raised UTG, then did his first-ever four-bet, and he did it against ME, knowing that I'm the tightest player, and knowing that it was my first three-bet, and knowing that I three-bet an UTG raise. He has to know I have QQ or better. So if he's raising me, he has to have AA or KK. Since I have KK, he almost surely can't have exactly the other two kings. Therefore, he has aces, and I must fold. Losing only $35 with KK against AA is a great play." <br /><br />And as I mentioned, I believe he came very close to doing that. <br /><br />But failing that, he lost the second-smallest amount that he could have.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-50123637290188194232012-02-11T17:10:24.701-05:002012-02-11T17:10:24.701-05:00Your opponent made a good laydown ... but played t...Your opponent made a good laydown ... but played the hand horribly. His line essentially turned KK, the 2nd best preflop hand in poker, into a baby pair that is set mining for half his stack. If your opponent put you on a range of only AA/KK/QQ/AK/JJ, then why on earth call your big preflop 4 bet? Push and see all 5 cards, or fold. Calling with the intent to fold if he doesn't flop a set, on a flop that is great for all big pairs (you could also have had QQ/JJ there and played it the same), is just plain spewy.Grange95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01857460215043659894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-81815966351681968822012-02-11T16:48:22.581-05:002012-02-11T16:48:22.581-05:00MOJO: I'm not sure what you mean. You mean che...MOJO: I'm not sure what you mean. You mean check as if I had missed with AK and let him be the one to shove? Or try to look weak and milk him with, say, a $25 flop bet? Maybe. It's true that I assumed that with kings in his hand and half his stack in the pot, he would be incapable of folding unless an ace hit the flop. So if I had known he was the rare bird that actually could fold, maybe play it different? I dunno. Good question.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-55975776652014737922012-02-11T16:38:25.582-05:002012-02-11T16:38:25.582-05:00Rob: I almost never show something I'm folding...Rob: I almost never show something I'm folding. The only reason I ever do it is as a tacit request for the winner to show me in return, which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. <br /><br />I told the story of one such attempt here: <br /><br />http://pokergrump.blogspot.com/2010/05/ill-show-you-mine-you-show-me-yours.htmlRakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-76321461192548481602012-02-11T16:31:46.455-05:002012-02-11T16:31:46.455-05:00Anon: I have no reason to think he has ever even h...Anon: I have no reason to think he has ever even heard of this blog. But he was a very observant player, and had undoubtedly developed a good sense of my style of play and level of experience over a couple of hours of watching me. That's what accounts for him saying that he was confident that I knew what he had.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-21813901323171345272012-02-11T12:23:10.626-05:002012-02-11T12:23:10.626-05:00Looking back, would you play the flop differently ...Looking back, would you play the flop differently if you had known the kind of player he is?Memphis MOJOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653631347560307425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-25923808570629723642012-02-11T11:21:57.723-05:002012-02-11T11:21:57.723-05:00Great post. Reminds me of the next hand I have to...Great post. Reminds me of the next hand I have to blog about. <br /><br />What do you think of the guy showing his hand as he mucked? Do you ever do that? What are the advantages of doing that?<br /><br />I liked the fact you told him he was right when he left, but of course, you could have been just saying that.<br /><br />Now...how sure were you the guy didn't call your $110 bet with pocket fours and had flopped a boat? Ok, I'm kidding. Actually I'm wondering if the guy had his read of you so perfectly--should he have folded pre-flop? I know you're never supposed to fold pocket Kings pre-flop, but maybe there.....? He was quite a long shot to flop a set to beat you.<br /><br />Regarding the guy looking like Liddy, I know when I started playing poker I kind of instinctively started noticing that players resembled famous people, even if they didn't. It was a memory device. Made it easier in my mind to remember a person's habits and tendancies if I could put a famous name on him.<br /><br />E.g., one time I played with a guy who reminded me of Jerry Seinfeld, so it was, "Oh wow, Jerry Seinfeld raised with Ace-rag under the gun? Good to know."Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-49301127979912274582012-02-11T10:42:37.130-05:002012-02-11T10:42:37.130-05:00excellent post but if he didn't know you were ...excellent post but if he didn't know you were the pokergrump (or a better than average 1/2 player at the very least) I think is a horrendous play by him pre ans flop<br /><br />that said, interesting reading!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-70895457775716919282012-02-11T10:40:16.809-05:002012-02-11T10:40:16.809-05:00No, *really* great post. I hope to think of this t...No, *really* great post. I hope to think of this type of reasoning during my own opportunities at play.PokerLawyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15460521595657731091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-57689767637112522232012-02-11T10:32:29.749-05:002012-02-11T10:32:29.749-05:00Good read,
However I wish that Internet kid was th...Good read,<br />However I wish that Internet kid was the one who had the Kings for you.grrouchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03619493798073601300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-28410016176772248552012-02-11T07:47:20.570-05:002012-02-11T07:47:20.570-05:00I've been silently reading your blog for longe...I've been silently reading your blog for longer than I can remember. I must say that this is a tremendous post, the kind that keeps me returning. Expertly written. Thank you!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com