tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post5670601890324430501..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Thinking too highRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-51896214763413451482009-11-08T10:17:45.029-05:002009-11-08T10:17:45.029-05:00Great post Grump.. something that I need to work o...Great post Grump.. something that I need to work on for sure. Saving the multiple level thinking for the right times and the right players. Important point.Troy Ohlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13963476188931026930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-2394978041203926342009-11-07T17:31:03.336-05:002009-11-07T17:31:03.336-05:00If Kopp is trying to represent a full house by pus...If Kopp is trying to represent a full house by pushing all on the turn, he needed to ask himself would a person with a full house actually re-raise all in? The way Kopp played the hand and the hand Kopp claims after the fact he is trying to represent are not consistent.<br /><br />Once Moon re-raised to 6 million, Kopp should have asked himself if that was the action of a player who was going to fold to a shove.<br /><br />Kopp played the hand poorly, he was way too deep to bust with a suited 5,3. He tried to run a bluff on a player despite conceding he hadn't played many hands with Moon and did not have a good handle on his playing style and tendencies. He also played a big pot in the late stages of a tournament without a big hand against about the only player in the tournament with a bigger stack.<br /><br />Moon had an incredible run of cards in the Main Event, but he also doesn't seem to be making too many mistakes. Kopp made a huge one.timpramashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16642923876816256315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-24850407680207239392009-11-07T15:54:35.190-05:002009-11-07T15:54:35.190-05:00I saw the recent interview on youtube where Kopp g...I saw the recent interview on youtube where Kopp gives his logic on the hand. I have to wonder whether he is trying to justify it after the fact. I think it is entirely possible that he figured his flush was good and that Moon was making a move with a semi-bluff.<br /><br />I also enjoyed Moon's call. If you listen to his voice and watch his gestures (on the ESPN broadcast), he gives me the impression of hoping he is good, but knowing that he might be very, very wrong.NerveEndingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-51356551102486101772009-11-07T14:22:12.623-05:002009-11-07T14:22:12.623-05:00Michael: I agree. There have been more times that ...Michael: I agree. There have been more times that I would like to admit when I have run a big bluff against a player in a situation where, if it were reversed and I held his cards, I would have folded, but this opponent called. I do not attribute those losses to the other guy being a bad player, but to me misjudging my opponent, and what strength of hand he requires to make a big call.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-35169083288176564512009-11-07T11:13:02.603-05:002009-11-07T11:13:02.603-05:00While Kopp may be correct in some of his logic (he...While Kopp may be correct in some of his logic (heck, he most likely is since I'm just a $1/$2 recreational player so WTF do I know anyway!) his comments about not being able to play against people like Moon are, in my opiniion, crying over spilled milk.<br /><br />He gets all in depth with his analysis of how he played the hand, what range he put Moon on, why Moon can't call, etc. But he forgets about one simple thing. he never even asks himself "Will this guy fold if this is the line I present" Presenting a line to represent your hand a certain way means absolutely nothing if your opponent won't recognize that line. So, while Kopp may have out thought Moon with the play of the hand, Moon outplayed Kopp because Kopp never seemed to consider that Moon was never laying down the second nut flush on a paired board.<br /><br />Kopp never seemed to consider that maybe the line he took made sense to himself but maybe, just maybe Moon didn't think Kopp flopped a set of Kings or Nines and therefore didn't fill up on the turn. <br /><br />HmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01777914441802895447noreply@blogger.com