tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post6171184588195618098..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Let's count the mistakesRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-16683484049780902002011-11-29T21:34:54.920-05:002011-11-29T21:34:54.920-05:00BT: Amusing story, but I caught you in a lie when ...BT: Amusing story, but I caught you in a lie when you said that the guy lost to garbage hands like AA when he was holding the nuts with 2-4. That is obviously impossible.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-31054268906268365332011-11-29T21:24:10.191-05:002011-11-29T21:24:10.191-05:00I have a funny story about seeing an opponent'...I have a funny story about seeing an opponent's hole cards. I was playing in a 10-20 game at the Commerce a while back. The guy to my right consistently lifted up his hole cards without any protection to where I could clearly see both of them. I politely warned him and asked him 2 or 3 times to protect his hand. His response was "don't fucking look at my cards." So, I said that if he didn't protect his hand, that it would be his problem. Now, I should mention that although he was completely sober, he was playing very loose, and was in almost every pot. He raised with rags and absolutely would not fold pre-flop. I was certain that it would only be a matter of time before I would felt him.<br /><br />A couple orbits later, I am on the button. There are several limpers. Mr. Loose Guy lifts up his hand and shows me 42. He makes it $620 to go! I look down to find that my hand is J2 and that I have him completely dominated. So, I think for a bit and make it $1600. I figure that Mr. Loose Guy will call, but that no one else can possibly play the hand without the nuts. What could possibly go wrong?<br /><br />Sure enough, all Hell breaks loose. Under the gun shoves for about $5K and the next limper re-shoves for more than that. Mr. Loose Guy says that he wants to gamble, and calls off his stack of about $3K. I have to throw my hand away. After the board is dealt, the limpers turn over AA and KK, and Mr. Loose Guy is felted. He does not re-buy, complains how everyone at the table are such tight nits and leaves. Not only do I lose $1600 on a garbage hand that I would almost never play, but the game soon breaks and I don't have a chance to get even for the night.<br /><br />There is probably a moral to this story somewhere, but I just can't figure out what it is.BigTikitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-54124188180255267232011-11-09T20:52:42.753-05:002011-11-09T20:52:42.753-05:00I'm really surprised by the floor decision her...I'm really surprised by the floor decision here. This was a serious error by the dealer. He had correctly stated that Seat 5 was all in (and thus Seat 1's action out of turn was no longer valid). But as you said, he almost immediately forgot what he had just said and swept the guys cards away!?! That's a bad dealer, if you ask me.<br /><br />I understand that it is the player's responsibility to protect his hand, but the dealer had basically announced the Seat 1 player was still alive. To then take his cards is a huge blunder.<br /><br />So for that reason alone, aside from your reasoning, I think Seat 1was only responsible for the BB. I wouldn't blame the drunk for putting up a big fuss. <br /><br />Remind me never to play at the Rio...based on your post both the dealers and the floor are incompetent!Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-7160531905270690352011-11-07T18:10:26.381-05:002011-11-07T18:10:26.381-05:00I was playing at the Rio as well this weekend. The...I was playing at the Rio as well this weekend. The guy to my immediate left was quite loose and I could see at least his bottom card (sometimes both) on most hands. Despite this he proceeded to clean me out on 3 separate hands. Most notably he hit quad 5's when I was holding pocket 9's and I saw beforehand that he had a queen. I should have hit the ATM and re-upped but I had a date that was waiting on me. Oh well. (Some may argue my peeking was unethical, my only weak arguments are that the table told me the guy was getting incredibly lucky prior to my arrival, and that I have in the past told players that I could see their cards and the most common response is that they don't believe me).Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-3330315908683238052011-11-06T09:00:06.731-05:002011-11-06T09:00:06.731-05:00While reading your post, I kept thinking about the...While reading your post, I kept thinking about the Harrah's commercial played on every WSOP telecast. <br /><br />"We don't want you playing if you are under 21, depressed or intoxicated. No, No, No!!!! <br /><br />Then the floor told you he tried to keep the intoxicated action player in the game by looking the other way. <br /><br />Too funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-6613919473066560322011-11-05T20:48:52.647-04:002011-11-05T20:48:52.647-04:00Although your decision might very well have been t...Although your decision might very well have been the best one, Rakewell, frankly I'm happy to see where the Rio floor came down on this one.<br /><br />I don't mean to be a conspiracy theorist, but IMHO it's just become too easy (and common) since the 10-years-ago 'poker boom' for folks to just show up at the table, drink themselves (often with complimentary alcohol) into oblivion, then use it as cover for angleshooting and other crap that would NEVER be tolerated from a sober player. It's just too easy: suck down 17 free cocktails, miss some blinds and fumble some cards, then voila: you've got the perfect excuse for too-often-floor-excused misbehavior at the table.<br /><br />If I were in charge of a poker room, I'd ensure every floor and dealer knew: I don't care if the player's sober, drinking, or snorting cocaine right off the bare belly of the $15k hooker sitting behind him. ANY obnoxious or suspicious table behavior will result in dead hands and ejection. <br /><br />BTW this theory of mine is reinforced by, as you mentioned, Seat 1's calm reaction when he found his out-of-turn gambit wouldn't work and his "jacks" would stay dead. Frankly it sounds to me like a guy who got caught, rather than just a mellow drunk.qdpstevenoreply@blogger.com