tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post626218609923783214..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Thanks but no thanksRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-38374636634424834252010-03-01T17:32:42.803-05:002010-03-01T17:32:42.803-05:00I also passed on this one. As I said in my own pos...I also passed on this one. As I said <a href="http://randomshuffle.blogspot.com/2010/02/sorry-pokerstars-not-this-time.html" rel="nofollow">in my own post</a>, my time is worth more than this. But I was obviously wrong in thinking I would be the only one or only one of a few poker bloggers who would tell PS to stick it. I should stop underestimating poker bloggers.Greylockshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07082344512727271133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-31424584310307028402010-02-23T11:44:57.891-05:002010-02-23T11:44:57.891-05:00I think they crossed the line here.
I might do i...I think they crossed the line here. <br /><br />I might do it for the scoop tickets. I'm a whore, what can I say.<br /><br />Plus, it's more likely to hurt them than me.MicroRollerhttp://blog.microrollers.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-64183102564953447872010-02-23T11:32:31.484-05:002010-02-23T11:32:31.484-05:00For what its worth, I've boycotted the PokerSt...For what its worth, I've boycotted the PokerStars blogger tourney for three years because the value of what they offer in the freeroll is actually quite small when you break it down, and in exchange, they get tons of SEO links from tons of bloggers. It seems like the same concept to me as the current offer, except, I suppose, the amount of posts to be done. <br /><br />From what I can tell, the offer was only sent to participants in the Blogger Freeroll, so its not so crazy that they think they can get even more from bloggers by offering a small freebie. Incidentally, I'm sure that the people who post the SEO links will more likely than not have smaller blogs, which would mean that PokerStars will probably get what they pay for (i.e., lesser offer for lesser blogs).<br /><br />BTW, I am not against making money from a blog, but I think it has to be clearly marked or otherwise not affect content. And, I think everyone should set their own price, so I don't knock anyone who agreed to the Freeroll or this most recent offer.Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-14816305300835670782010-02-23T10:37:42.964-05:002010-02-23T10:37:42.964-05:00Got it. Won't be doing it either.Got it. Won't be doing it either.diverjouleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696002836378204596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-86189061065525338652010-02-23T10:10:39.616-05:002010-02-23T10:10:39.616-05:00Oh... and in reading the email as Bastin published...Oh... and in reading the email as Bastin published, this is not about advertising, it is about search engine optimization. By scattering links to their site around the internet in which poker links to pokerstars, they boost the chances that someone searching 'poker' on google will get pokerstars as the number 1 result.<br /><br />Trying to game google is a dangerous business, and if google catches on they'll get banished to page 10.Bluejackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818289223163850255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-11494771627201401692010-02-23T10:08:08.267-05:002010-02-23T10:08:08.267-05:00I think there is a fundamental difference in kind ...I think there is a fundamental difference in kind between posting a graphic advertisement and "product placement" in the blog content; so the old joke about $1M v $10 doesn't quite apply.<br /><br />The whole reason people generally find product placement sleazy is that it compromises the integrity of the source. We may not love advertising, but when there is a clear demarcation between content and advertising we do not consider it to be sleazy, just annoying. (Or sometimes entertaining, or even informative, but that depends on the ad.)<br /><br />The phase I salvo, dropping in the ad in exchange for the tournament entry was smart: it's advertising (and link generation for SEO), the bloggers will talk about it, and then about the tournament, and all-in-all: positive buzz.<br /><br />This phase II salvo... not so much.<br /><br />(And I'm not just saying that because I didn't get an offer :) )Bluejackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818289223163850255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-77309799100164460442010-02-23T09:54:23.513-05:002010-02-23T09:54:23.513-05:00Interesting. Glad you shared this info.Interesting. Glad you shared this info.Phillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320697965186275727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-21956367779001744522010-02-23T08:43:08.895-05:002010-02-23T08:43:08.895-05:00Snuffy and I both received that same email.
My fi...Snuffy and I both received that same email.<br /><br />My first reaction was, oh cool. Then I saw that it was a total of 6 posts!<br /><br />All for a measly $22 ticket. <br /><br />I think not.gadzooks64https://www.blogger.com/profile/11196685757419878380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-57264621283107774752010-02-23T01:29:31.856-05:002010-02-23T01:29:31.856-05:00Yeah, I got that too.
I think drawing the line at...Yeah, I got that too.<br /><br />I think drawing the line at altering CONTENT is a reasonable place to take a stand.NThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365287012451209505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-40096562713856267762010-02-23T00:46:57.962-05:002010-02-23T00:46:57.962-05:00I pretty much felt the same way about the email. I...I pretty much felt the same way about the email. It's just text links they are looking for, but geez, 5 posts? With the SEO sentence to boot? Thanks, but no thanks.OhCaptainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09399011365659793142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-14278556685915699592010-02-22T23:43:18.978-05:002010-02-22T23:43:18.978-05:00Grump,
Please get with Stars and see if they can ...Grump, <br />Please get with Stars and see if they can make me an offer for posting a linked comment! I need the free plays!Big-Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09694663647642834751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-42443061912245822882010-02-22T23:16:16.694-05:002010-02-22T23:16:16.694-05:00You were a lot kinder than I.
I am also grateful...You were a lot kinder than I. <br /><br />I am also grateful for the blogger freerolls as they have given quite a few of us an opportunity to establish bonds with each other that may not have happened otherwise. In that case, I happily posted the little Stars emblem to let folks know I would be participating. <br /><br />Stars is now trying to implement Phase II, and I'm sure their marketing folks thought they had a winner with this one. What they failed to consider is that those of us who write for an income can do better with the crap job offers on Craig's List. <br /><br />With 25 years of experience writing direct marketing copy, I would gladly write for Stars as a paid contract employee. Hell, I'd count chips at tournaments and report back to Star's live bloggers because, when all is said and done, I love all things poker. But I'm not going to shill for some tokens.bastinptchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01831273031973399021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-24152629211343946832010-02-22T23:06:32.567-05:002010-02-22T23:06:32.567-05:00That is one of the reasons I like reading Poker Gr...That is one of the reasons I like reading Poker Grump - I know that what is written is (without getting too smarmy) straight-forward and true. <br /><br />It is one thing to admit to the realities of life and accept advertising - even if that means a logo on the side for some freerolls. But to embed specific sentences with links means that a post was generated, not created.There are some who call me... Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16501871165064593983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-89708929276972630112010-02-22T21:52:25.192-05:002010-02-22T21:52:25.192-05:00I got the same offer today and had exactly the sam...I got the same offer today and had exactly the same reaction. Thanks, but no thanks.<br /><br />My blog, for all its faults, is my blog. My voice. My thoughts and content.JKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01442410099610262200noreply@blogger.com