tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post4189897199221316070..comments2024-03-05T08:25:01.029-05:00Comments on Poker Grump: Bluffy McBluffersonRakewellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-82318775000151186412012-12-31T15:42:08.063-05:002012-12-31T15:42:08.063-05:00"I'll interrupt the story to note that ju..."I'll interrupt the story to note that just a bit under 3x is my favorite check-raising amount. I mentally think of it as "3x-minus." My observation has been that 3x or more blows too many mediocre and drawing hands out of the water when I have the goods and want a call. 3x-minus does that less, yet it usually does not give the correct odds for a draw to call, the way a minimum (2x) raise would. Naturally, when I'm bluffing, I try to follow the same pattern. It's not really that I expect most players at this level to be paying enough attention to my check-raise sizes to notice if I were to deviate from my norm--I'm not doing it often enough for that. Instead, the reasoning is that a 3x check-raise is so standard that making it just a little less than that looks like I'm trying to get a call, without being the minimum raise that actually is easy for an opponent to call. To put it another way, it's either a good amount to value bet, or a good amount to look like a value-bet."<br /><br />Excellent! I like the logic, math and bet sizing here. Good Stuff! Stack sizes and spot is great for forcing your opponent into a fold or shove decision where most of his range leans towards a fold. Easy to think about bu thard to execute in real life. <br /><br />Hopefully we can meet up while I'm in town (1/11-1/14).<br /><br />Happy new Year!Vookenmeisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833150991507495668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-2766494151579459122012-12-31T12:16:31.816-05:002012-12-31T12:16:31.816-05:00Zin, I wasn't playing scared, but appreciate t...Zin, I wasn't playing scared, but appreciate the advice. See my own post for my thought process there:<br /><br />http://robvegaspoker.blogspot.com/2012/12/how-grump-stole-christmas.htmlRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-82471367950264747752012-12-31T03:25:19.977-05:002012-12-31T03:25:19.977-05:00No vagina mentionings. I quit drinking for a very...No vagina mentionings. I quit drinking for a very long time and broke the fast the night before. My massive hangover and horrible run of cards forced me to act like a church mouse.<br /><br />As for the hand Grump had against Rob... my read was half-right. The board included 6 and 9d, and I was sure Grump was holding 78d for a billion hot and juicy draws. I can only go on what Grump confesses on this site, but I'll never know the truth. ..Prudencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-43474628454014145442012-12-31T01:09:18.473-05:002012-12-31T01:09:18.473-05:001. No, Prudence was very quiet.
2. I was not und...1. No, Prudence was very quiet. <br /><br />2. I was not underestimating Rob. Quite the contrary. I would never try that move against a player who wasn't good enough to make a big fold.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-59483082265394950862012-12-30T23:29:06.233-05:002012-12-30T23:29:06.233-05:00What I want to know is whether Prudence uttered th...What I want to know is whether Prudence uttered the "V" word and got Rob all hot and bothered?!!! And btw, never underestimate Rob, he's a great poker player.Luv Maltshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07172516188826188552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-21350553001090674622012-12-30T17:32:27.845-05:002012-12-30T17:32:27.845-05:00You know that your friend Rob is now going to be a...You know that your friend Rob is now going to be annoyed with you, even though he may not admit it. So, is this how you want your friends to feel towards you?<br />Personally, I love NL Holdem, but I think it is a mean and dirty game, better played vs strangers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-39982689301554788502012-12-30T17:26:15.957-05:002012-12-30T17:26:15.957-05:00Well, the river was pretty simple: as long as it d...Well, the river was pretty simple: as long as it didn't complete a flush, I shove. After all, when I'm playing the board, with 5-high in my hand, there's only one possible way to win the pot.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-81982324184991619772012-12-30T16:48:13.006-05:002012-12-30T16:48:13.006-05:00Thanks for fixing the first hand; makes sense now....Thanks for fixing the first hand; makes sense now.<br /><br />Perhaps you were thinking that if he had AK/AQdd and he made TPTK on the river that still didn't beat your trip jacks.<br /><br />Well played. This is a problem I have where I bluff raise thinking V <b>has</b> to fold and then I have no idea (or not guts) what to do on the river.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15234000354134393735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-31028164189694958812012-12-30T14:47:28.968-05:002012-12-30T14:47:28.968-05:00Oops. You're right. I wrote "flush" ...Oops. You're right. I wrote "flush" instead of "trips," presumably because of mentioning his likely flush draw in the preceding paragraph. Fixed now. As for the comment about him having aces, yeah, that was just an extraneous thought that I added when proofreading the post after writing it way too late at night. It was just dumb, and not part of what I was thinking at the time. I've deleted that now.Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-74827809502741013042012-12-30T12:37:39.160-05:002012-12-30T12:37:39.160-05:00You BASTARD!!!!
Just kidding, Grump.
Or should...You BASTARD!!!!<br /><br />Just kidding, Grump. <br /><br />Or should I be like Josie and use the "w" word?<br /><br />I think I will reserve comment on the second hand until I do the inevitably lengthy post on my own blog. But for now, yeah, no hard feelings, all's fair in love, war and poker.<br /><br />Regarding the first hand, I don't remember everything but by your own description, something is off.<br /><br />If the flop was rainbow, the turn a diamond and the river a spade, he sure wasn't worried about you having a flush at the end. In fact, if I remember correctly, even tho I was at the other side of the table from you guys, I thought I heard him say, "I guess you have a Jack" when he made the laydown. So he didn't have Aces or he would have been more than happy to call you with his full house. So, not sure what he had there. Kings? Queens? Or you are misremembering the suits of the cards (I don't recall) if you think he was worried about the flush.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767080296489122846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-55179268736600303002012-12-30T10:27:21.205-05:002012-12-30T10:27:21.205-05:00This is exactly the conundrum you put players in w...This is exactly the conundrum you put players in when they know you or read your blog. <br /><br />I am guessing that you remember the details of the hand when we played at Bally's and we faced off with you K-K to my A-Q sooted. The flop gave me the nut flush draw with nothing else. I was thinking that you either missed the flop or were bluffing with air. I was also somewhat frustrated with a run of poor cards and pushed hard. I caught my flush on the river and doubled up.<br /><br />Although the results-oriented part of me was happy to take your money, I was embarrassed at playing the hand so poorly and being 100% wrong in deciphering what you were doing.<br /><br />Glub glub.lightning36https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641629003610446976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-58576130289857257052012-12-30T10:14:42.620-05:002012-12-30T10:14:42.620-05:00Very nice Grump, money just looks a lot better whe...Very nice Grump, money just looks a lot better when taken from a friend. Rob stop playing scared or you will end up broke.Zinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16017546546219496905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-21941944585303476392012-12-30T08:40:42.860-05:002012-12-30T08:40:42.860-05:00Try againTry againveeRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949178943666062588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36880087.post-68822050842563983112012-12-30T05:16:51.330-05:002012-12-30T05:16:51.330-05:00Since I do this to Rob's often prolix blog pos...Since I do this to Rob's often prolix blog posts, I suppose it's only fair to do it to my own: <br /><br /><br />Grump's Notes Version: I won a couple of pots by bluffing, and as a result I seem to think I'm pretty hot stuff. Rakewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873391354585352712noreply@blogger.com