Thursday, January 22, 2009

Poker gems, #215

Mike Caro, in Bluff magazine column, November, 2008, p. 77.


Another mistake players sometimes make is to play low-quality hands before the flop when many players have already entered the pot. You might assume you're getting good odds, but think about this: Everyone can't be getting good odds, so someone must be taking the worst of it. If you're playing 8-7 off-suit, that someone is you.

3 comments:

Mike said...

It's a typo, he really meant 24o...

Anonymous said...

I have to disagree with Mike here (and you, since you calling it a gem makes you a knowing accomplice).

If you are good at playing weak hands that can hit big and getting away from them when they hit in dangerous ways then you should be playing them. Your 2x4 series illustrates this perfectly.

While I have learned a great deal from Caro, I think that the players "getting the worst of it" in his example are the ones that play the worst post-flop. Obviously the guy with 87 has to be better than the guy playing AK to be profitable but I like to think that I am better than the average player.

Playing trash is ONLY profitable when you have a multi-way pot because you need an opponent when your hand hits or the times it misses and you fold will FAR out-weigh the money you make when it hits the right way.

While Caro put his point in a way that only he can, I strongly disagree with his lesson and from everything I have read from you, I can easily deduce that you tend to agree with me.

Just wanted your opinion on this if you can.

LOVE the blog. Keep it up!

Anonymous said...

Ray is right -- well, sorta. But, if you limp rags 17 times and end up making 5 BB, you are down 3.5 BB.

Poker is selective and bad poker is predictable. Cards factor in as a component.

We could talk about not limping and add to the dispute.

No tool is perfect.